Romans Series - Part 2 - Justification by Faith

 How does the consequence of Adam's actions compare to those of Christ? What is the effect of grace on the person who puts their faith in Christ? Fr. Michael Sorial addresses this through a study on Romans 5:9-21 at the Link.


[Music] last week we ended with this passage how much more than now having been justified by his blood we shall be saved from wrath through him and we said last week that that rat that were saved to him is not God's wrath but rather it's the experience of what we have it's our experience of of who God is when were not in correct relationship with him okay as wave an example when when my children do something wrong and I walk into the room even oftentimes I haven't even opened my mouth I love them I'm coming to say hey what's going on very calmly most of the time very calmly and I say to them what's going on and you can see that they're uncomfortable right they get they kind of start shaking what what they would experience that as and I haven't said anything haven't done anything not planning to do anything but whether they experience my seeking them out as is rap its discomfort okay the beautiful example that I read once that kind of lays us out beautifully is that our experience of of the immutable God and that word immutability means that God doesn't change is the same yesterday today and forever is based on our disposition where our hearts are focused where our minds are focused Malachi chapter 4 verse 2 describes God as the Sun of righteousness Sun as UN of righteousness okay so his current that the right image of me is that the holiness of God is is it's it's like if you will son it's like coming forth its heat its warmth coming forth and what happens for four different people as they experience that Sun based on the disposition of their heart differently so for some people there hearts their lives would be like wax and for other people it would be like clay each no wax and the clay are impacted differently by the same Sun nothing has changed in what comes out of the Sun the SU Enright's it's still just light and heat but based on the condition of the heart and the mind the person the soul experiences that heat and that light differently what happens to wax when it's left out in in heat and Sun it melts what happens to clay when it's left out it hardens okay so what happens is and this is what he's saying here we've been justified by his blood we shall be saved from wrath through him what happens is the image that was once distorted gets fixed our hearts if you will change from clay to wax now we experience God's Sun the the word same words that we used to hear in church the same words that we used to read in the Bible the same words that we've that that our our family members our priests our servant our parents our children are used to say to us that would harden our heart now they soften our heart what's changed God hasn't changed now we said God is immutable he doesn't change same yesterday today and forever what changes is our experience of God our experience of God changes proverbs chapter 25 verse 21 to 22 if you want to turn there with me Solomon is describing here and actually Paul quotes Solomon I believe later in the book of Romans but in this passage he says here if your enemy is hungry give him bread to eat and if he's thirsty give him water to drink for so you will heap coals of fire in his head and the Lord will reward you is God here telling it through Solomon is he telling the people to be passive aggressive like is he saying do this stuff and you'll heap coals of fire and do it so that you get under your enemy's skin is that what he's talking I'm here now we say you love you you do who you are you be who you are love offer food offer water but understand for some people for your enemy it might affect them differently it might irritate them okay and by the way it's the same with God's love there have been times in our lives where someone will do something nice to us and it irritates us it gets under our skin it irks us yes there are times where you'll hear a person's name and it'll cause your heart to like get uncomfortable okay it causes your skin to crawl hey person might love you dearly but your disposition to that person is such that you can't stand to be around them and no one else gets it everyone else is like that person's the nicest person in the world we love that person everyone else is like they're the greatest person in the world and you look at them and you're like I just the sound of their voice we're just hearing their name makes me uncomfortable what's the difference how you experience them your disposition towards them Luke chapter 5 Jesus is in the boat and the same Sun right Jesus Christ the Son of God he's in the boat Luke chapter 5 verse 48 Jesus tell Simon to cast his launch his boat out into the deep and let down your nets for a catch but Simon answered in sets a master we've toiled all night and caught nothing nevertheless at your word I'll let down your net let down the net and when they had done this they caught a great number of fish and their net was breaking so they signal to their partners in the other boat to come and help them and they came and filled both the boats so that they began to sink when Simon Peter saw it he fell down at Jesus knees knees saying depart from me for I am a sinful man Oh Lord does Jesus say anything to Simon Jesus has just left him in such a way that he blessed him and he's giving him this image so that he understands he's not know I'm gonna be a fisherman he's gonna become a Fisher of men okay but how does Peter experience the love of God in that moment he says depart from my boats get away from he experience God's love his overwhelming blessing to him he experienced that that love as wrath and he said I'm a sinful man I'm wretched I'm wicked get away from me okay I'm not worthy to be around you God's love experienced differently let's look at one more passage in 1st Corinthians chapter 11 verse 27 to 30 and this is a text that speaks about the Eucharist and how it is that we can experience the Eucharist differently okay same Eucharist by the way same Eucharist Eucharist doesn't change Eucharist is always medicine of immortality it's God offering himself to us Christ is saying I am coming to be inside you verse 27 to 30 therefore whoever eats this bread or drinks this cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of the blood body in the blood of the Lord but let a man examine himself so let him eat of the bread and drink of the cup for he who eats and drinks in an unworthy manner eats and drinks judgment to himself not discerning the Lord's body for this reason many are weak and sick among you and many sleep same reality in different experiences for some they receive the Eucharist as life for the one whose disposition is drawn to God they experience Eucharist his life but he's also telling us here that if our disposition is like that the the the clay not like the wax then what happens is we eat and drink onto condemnation to judgment on ourselves okay same exact reality but experienced radically indifference radically different the truth is that when we speak about wrath and grace that will be saved from we oftentimes our mind goes to where it goes to the end right goes to judgment but the truth is that's a present reality as well it begins in the here and now okay what happens when my life is far from God and I draw back close to him that the discomfort that I that I had the absence of peace that I had right that the the feeling on hole uncomplete begins to be settled now I want to distinguish the difference between going to church and drawing close to God okay because you might say like I go to church but I still have like an absence of peace inside of me I go to church but I feel like I feel every time I stand in prayer I feel like really uncomfortable okay there's a distinction between I'm going to church and I'm drawing close to God okay the truth is if I've been justified by faith I have peace with God that what I once experienced with him that was rat that was uncomfortable that would harden my heart I might go into church then very next day hear the same word and it doesn't irritate me instead it softens my heart that's the reason why for many of you used to hear a sermon about repentance or certain men about the cross and it would irritate you like I've heard this before and other times I hear the same exact words nothing's changed but the word hits you very differently okay the word is truly like a two-edged sword going out and it does it comes back and it changes the person it pierces the person whose heart is like wax that can be penetrated the one whose heart is like clay that's been hardened the sword goes chips at it it moves on won't find a home okay st. Ambrose when speaking about this he said the wicked man the wicked man is a punishment to himself but the right man the one who's right she was the one who has received and lives in the the image of God is a grace to himself and to either whether good or bad the reward of his deeds is paid in his own person in other words what he's saying is if I live a grace filled life I live right like I experience that now here now like that is my own payment I received the roar'd beginning today why cuz I have peace with God now my heart is settled with God CS Lewis in his work the Great Divorce he said at the end of all things the blessed will say we have never lived anywhere except in heaven and the lost we were always in health we were always in hell and both will speak truly okay the idea of having peace and grace and justification it's a present reality we begin to experience that life with God here now and unfortunately the opposite is true as well the opposite is true when I'm living in conflict with God oftentimes I may have moments and glimpses of satisfaction but an absence of Shalom peace completeness wholeness I'm still constantly striving and seeking for more that's the reason by the way why Paul is is comparing this idea of grace and faith with the law because the law you're constantly striving you're constantly working you're constantly trying to achieve and prove and evidence that you're good enough you constantly have to do do do in in verse nine he says we've now been justified by his blood why because in the Old Covenant there was a constant need to offer up a blood sacrifice and that was never good enough it was never going to be enough we have peace with him we have peace with him because we've been justified by his blood Hebrews chapter 10 verse 19 let me just read it for you therefore brethren having boldness to enter the holiest by the blood of Jesus it was always the dream like imagine you're living in the Old Covenant the Old Testament who's allowed to enter the Holies the priests the high priests okay you're not really whole if you're there you're witnessing something glorious but it's different by the way that you get to witness something holy something tremendous something majestic something glorious and you yourself have peace with God we know the difference we've all seen people who are living a life of wholeness in God who are living righteously who's you look at them you say I see God in uppers I see Christ in that person we know the difference between that and ourselves experiencing the peace of God he says we have boldness to enter the holiest by the blood of of Jesus its Christ himself who draws us into that holiest of places it's he who draws us back into relationship with God verse 10 for if when we were enemies we were reconciled to God through the death of his son much more having been reconciled we shall be saved by his life we said last week that one of the main themes in this chapter was reconciliation right reconciliation and we said last week that to be reconciled means that I was far off and now I'm brought close with another person last week in the gospel sermon I spoke about this this is a handkerchief that we use actually during a part of the liturgy known as the prayer of reconciliation okay by the way this idea of reconciliation being reconciled to God is a an essential part of our notion or understanding of salvation salvation unfortunately in many people's minds is that there's a transaction of salvation that has occurred that I was once seen as guilty and now God in a transactional manner says you're no longer guilty okay but the deeper sense of salvation is that we were far from God like the prodigal son was and now we have been brought home we spoke last weekend and actually the the journey that the handkerchief makes this like the the one that the priests are in the pray reckon sation no-holds in front of his face there's a journey that it actually makes through the liturgy during the liturgy at the very beginning the priest will take this handkerchief and he'll put it right here inside of his sleeve and at the time of the choosing of the the offering the lamb he'll pull it out and he'll wipe in this is to signify that that which is hidden which is sin leads to death the slaying of the Lamb okay and then the same handkerchief is the one that when we lay out the the thing that's called the pressed foreigner that the large covering over the tabernacle we put it on top of it and that signifies that once again sets in leads to death because this is the tomb Christ has been slain and and it's now what we're dealing with sin and death okay it's that same handkerchief by the way that the priest then picks up after and during the prayer of reconciliation and puts in front of his eyes why because sin and death caused us to have blindness okay and the only way for us to see our salvation Christ because on the other side the deacon is standing there with a cross right is that sin would be dealt with okay and when that happens God's primary goal is that we would be reconciled to him pray of reconciliation but a consequence of that is that we would be reconciled to one another hence why the deacon then as soon as we celebrate our reconciliation with Christ the dealing of the of sin in the cross of Jesus the very next thing the deacon says now greet one another be reconciled to each other because our reconciliation with God would be reflected in our reconciliation with one another okay this idea of reconciliation is that we were enemies we were far off from God we were distant from him and now we've been brought close it's a metaphor if you will of making peace after war but there's a second layer is that we have been readmitted to the presence in favor of the rightful king not the Prince of the world but the rightful king after which we rebelled against him I want you to imagine that you rebelled against the king in the olden days what would what would be done to you you'd be killed be killed and our understanding of reconciliation is that we rebelled against God and you say you were my enemies but I'm bringing you close to me I'm coming to you I'm offering my son so that's not that you can simply I can look and say you're no longer guilty so that you can have a place in my house you're welcome to eat at my table you are naked I'm giving you some clothes to it I'm not just gonna give you closer I'm gonna close you with my son Jesus Christ you were hungry I'm gonna feed you and I'm gonna feed you again with the bread of life my son Christ you have no home to live in I'm gonna bring you into my house because our Father has many mansions and one of those is prepared for each of us there's a text called the ambrosia austere this is separate from Ambrose it was written around the end of the 4th century and it's a commentary actually on st. Paul's letters and abrió ambrosia serves written around the Year 385 ad he says the God who acts on behalf of his enemies will not be able to love his friends any less than that like I want you to imagine for that for a second st. Paul here is telling us that while we were enemies he came and he died for us how much more would he deal with his friends like it's beautiful to think that enemies he's gonna die for us what about his friends how much does he want to bless us how much does he seek to fill our lives with peace how much does he seek to pour out his grace to transform us how much the things of the kingdom that we ask for is he willing to offer us and provide for us he says I want to bless your life with peace I want you to have that joy that surpasses all understanding I want you when you're in even in the midst of tribulation that you can brag about God's presence there that you can glory in God's presence even in the middle of the tribulation the difficulties that you experience God could have annihilated his enemies but instead he loves us we're justified in virtue to our new relationship to the Father by our incorporation into the person of Christ through baptism through baptism and actually in Romans chapter 6 which will probably begin next week he speaks about the importance of our incorporation through into Christ through baptism turn with me just keep your finger there in your Bibles oh and turn with me to Ephesians chapter 2 verse 12 to 17 in this passage st. Paul is talking to us about again reconciliation it says he himself is our peace he is not just that we have peace but he is our peace we said peace is what Shalom is what wholeness completeness okay he is our wholeness who has made both one the both who he's talking about here is who the Jews and the Gentiles okay the Jews of the Gentiles he has made both one and say nothing I see us in his work on the Incarnation he speaks about this he actually says that Christ the reason he was crucified with his arms outstretched is so that he could gather those of old with those of new right that the Jews and the Gentiles right there's his reconciling act not just with us with God but us us with one another he has made both one and has broken down the middle wall of separation having abolished in his flesh the enmity that is the law of Commandments obtained in ordinances so as to create in himself one new man from the two thus making peace I don't think we realize the gravity of how much the Jews and the Gentiles hated one another they couldn't stand each other they were constantly at war with on an another they looked at each other as in darkness foolish killing one another they saw them as one another as less than human as weak and what we're told here is our reconciliation with God must lead to a reconciliation with our fellow man must lead to our not just being drawn close to God but drawn close to one another John Chrysostom he tells us based on if you go back with me to Romans five he says here let me just read the passage first from the scripture says not only that but we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ through whom we have now received the reconciliation Chrysostom says the fact that we who were such terrible sinners were saved is a very great sign indicating how much we were loved by him who saved us how much joy should it give us inexpressible joy when we realized that we were his enemies and he looks and says I'm choosing you I want you to think that the creator of the universe would look at me who is his enemy and say I am choosing you should lead to in expressible joy look back real quick at verse 11 though because the the passage is skipped this part and I think it's an important part at the very end of verse 10 rather it says we shall be saved by his life we shall be saved by his life okay the word saved there in the Greek actually implies to make well more whole or heal that when we are reconciled to God that he makes us complete he makes us whole again we unfortunately forgive you guys but when we read the text we often times we read ideas into it rather than digging into what is what are what a words mean what is concepts mean okay now I know each one of you can't sit there with like a commentary and a lectionary and a bunch of stationery whatever like you can't sit there with all these different areas and and just like unpack things okay but we gotta have the right frame of mind when we're reading the text and the right frame of mind is that we were when we were far from God we were sick we were diseased by sin and when we come back to him he makes us whole and he heals us and he restores us that he is our salvation he is our healing as we say he's our life all of that in the the litany of the gospel right we say you are the life of us all you are the hope of us all you are the healing of us all the resurrection of us all the salvation of us all if you will the five are different aspects of the same idea different terms used to express the same wholeness or peace that we have with God in this last part of of Romans chapter 5 verses 12 to 21 we're gonna get through this today it's basically broken down into three main parts okay verses 12 to 14 speak about Adam and the consequences of his actions who's Adam and based on what he did how did it affect us then verses 15 to 19 look at Adam as compared to Christ and in the last two verses talk about the relationship of law sin and grace and kind of get you ready for chapter 6 alright so Adam and the consequence of his actions look at verse 12 therefore just as through one man sin entered the world and death through sin and that thus death spread to all men therefore or because or as a result all sinned for until the law sin was in the world but sin is not imputed when there is no law nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses even over those who had not sinned according to the likeness of the transgression of Adam who is a type of him who was to come so in other words through Adam sin entered into the world and what was the consequence of that sin sin we said is a disease right it infected us what's the results if you get diseased leads to death right ok so just as one man sin entered into the world and death through sin and thus that that death spread to all men because we're therefore all sinned ok let me explain that last part so sin enters into our parents Adam and Eve when sin enters into them they become mortals they die and thus all of their offspring their progeny their children are born mortals okay we're all born with this corrupted nature to die and then it says because for therefore is what the the Syriac and the greek imply therefore all sinned we said last week that sin is what sin the Greek is a martyria right a martyria Mart what is the word martyr martyria it's a witness right it's the one who witnesses to who God is sin is the absence or the negation of being a witness of God right a witness of Christ which means the image in other words became distorted therefore all missed the mark we all missed the mark of the glory of God Romans chapter 3 all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God the image of God becomes distorted in us and he says I'm coming to restore my image by uniting my selves to you through the Incarnation God becomes man so that he can lift us up that's why throughout the text you'll find him healing people and saying take up your bed and walk arise and walk that be the apex of salvation is his own rising from the dead that he comes to restore to heal to give life to give salvation that he is our resurrection Cyril of Alexandria he says that death entered into the first man and into the beginnings of our race because of sin and very soon ad corrupted the entire race okay it's that idea that sin is like this disease there's a person in the beginning of the fifth century his name is gennady US of constantinople he says everyone in the following of adam had has died because they all have inherited their nature from him right all of us have missed the mark all of us the image becomes distorted and this is a consequence of of Adam this is who Adam is this is his his legacy unfortunately from that time of Adam to Moses death reigned even over those who had not sinned like Adam did okay for until the law sin was in the world but sin is not imputed when there is no law nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses even over those who had not sinned according to the likeness of the transgression of Adam who is a type of him who was to come thus the question like people say look if if we believe a person lives a righteous life a holy life then can they like why do they need salvation and that's one of the things that is being said here right side do you have even those who didn't send in the likeness of Adam their nature still became corrupted right that's the reason why for those like there's a school that says Mary Saint Mary lived like a very pure and virtuous life why would she need salvation because her ultimately what was wrong with us as humanity was our nature was corrupted it wasn't just it was it was two parts right it's deal with the sin part and it's dealing with the death part okay and even you would say if the person lived a good pure life there's still the nature's corrupted we were dead we're dead and now we have victory in Christ we have life in him look with me in Galatians chapter 3 verse 24 Galatians 3:24 Paul says therefore the law was our tutor to bring us to Christ that we might be justified by faith okay it's the same exact concept that he's talking about in both passages right the law was a tutor the law was an instructor it was to lead us to the school to the schoolmaster whose Christ himself that we might be justified by faith the law was there to teach us but justification having our image God's image in us restored doesn't come from the law it comes by faith but after faith has come we are no longer under a tutor after Christ has come we're no longer under the law how do we gain access for you are all sons of God through faith in Jesus Christ for as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ so how do we gain access how we brought clothes into that relationship it's through baptism okay and that's a an idea that we'll speak about in Romans 6 next week so that first section is about Adam and the consequence of his actions this next part is about Adam and Christ compared to one another and just out of the gates there's no comparison okay there's no comparison Adam the law every it all falls short as what we see in Christ but the free gift is not like the offence the free gift is not like the offense for if by the one man's offense many died much more the grace of God in the gift of grace of the one man Jesus Christ abounded too many okay for by one man's offense many died in other words there's no comparison even in the fact that Adam's sin caused humanity to fall he's saying that doesn't compare to how much faith in Christ or justification by faith in the person of Jesus Christ this pales completely in comparison to the latter okay because we oftentimes look and say man like Adam's sin messed up the world and what Paul here saying is as much as you think that messed up the world that doesn't compare to the greatness of God's grace in Christ the one doesn't compare to the other how how incredible is it that one person who chooses to live in disobedience to God can affect others I know what another who chooses to live in a complete obedience to his father can impact so many more right I mean this is if if this passage right here is not evidence to us about how a life either wholly committed to God or wholly committed to being away from God and just seeking my own carnal desires can impact others I don't know what does hey Adam his decision his sin corrupted so many people 1st Corinthians 15:33 tells us that evil company corrupts good character good habits right so on one side yes badness evil unrighteousness can affect others but how beautiful is it that a person wholly committed to God living a life of grace can affect those around them that a person that's committed to grace can deeply impact her surroundings a life of grace what we're being told here is even more impactful than a life of disobedience and the gift is not like that which came through the one who sinned again he's saying that there's no comparison for the judgment which came from one it says one offense there resulted in condemnation some of you at just sit might say which came from one the translator added the word offense there which came from one resulted or letsa condemnation we said condemnation was that death entered into the world but the free gift which came from many offenses resulted in justification ok so the free gift which was offered by Christ resulted in our justification which was our image being restored and the word offense offense there literally means a deviation from truth and uprightness hey so the judgment which came from deviation resulted in condemnation but the free gifts which came from many who were led astray who are not in truth who were not living an upright life life had their lives transformed and resulted in justification that God's image would be restored in as God notion of justice would be perfected in us that God would look at us and say no it is just for you to be in my image first by the one man's offense death reigned through the one much more those who receive abundance of grace and the gift of righteousness we already said that righteousness is to have God's image restored in us and the abundance of grace is what allows us to live a life of virtue so what he's saying here is that we receive the likeness and the image of God and it will reign in life through the one Jesus Christ this is not a theoretical thing in other words he's saying this affects how I live my life it affects me to have a life of virtue a life of holiness that as we heard in the gospel sermon this morning it's not just about head and heart knowledge but it's about hands and feet as well that it transforms how I life how we live my life that it's not about saying a prayer or being baptized or showing up on a Sunday morning it's about our lives being transformed by the grace of God and the praying and the being baptized and the coming to church on Sunday is saying that God I need a relationship with you that for me to enter into act into a life of faith with you a life of grace I need access to you and that baptism is the entrance point and that I show up to church on Sunday mornings to rejoice into glory in God to say to God you're worthy to be bragged about you're amazing you're incredible God I come to rejoice in you I come to glory in you even in my tribulation I'm gonna brag about you because you've transformed my life that I was dead and now now I'm alive therefore verse 18 as through one man's offence judgment came to all men resulting in condemnation even so through one man's righteous act the free gift came to all men resulting in justification of life that condemnation there means that we were sentenced we literally received the death sentence but he came so that we would reign in life verse eighteen said right turn with me for a minute to Revelation chapter one verse verse six and then we'll wrap up with the last two verses I'm gonna start off in verse 4 it says grace to you and peace from him who is and who was and who is to come and from the seven spirits who are before his throne and from Jesus Christ the the faithful witness right he's the faithful martyr the firstborn from the dead and the ruler over the kings of the earth to him who loved and us and washed us from our sins in his own blood and he has made us kings and priests to his God and Father to him be glory and Dominion for ever amen he has made us kings in other words to rule in life to reign in life that we'd have victory over sin and over death in our lives and he's made us priests which means we now have access to the Holies we have access to approach him we have access to draw close to him we've been brought we were once far off and now we have our home in him yeah we are where to reign in life with him and finally the last two verses verse 20 and 21 says moreover the law entered that the offence might abound but where sin abounded grace abounded much more so that as sin reigned in death even so grace might reign through righteousness to eternal life through Jesus Christ two reasons sin abounded two reasons sin abounded number one is that through the law knowledge of sin came about we didn't know anything about sin like if there's no rules there's no laws given you have plausible deniability right like that that was always one of the things growing up like I always wanted plausible deniability if we're having a family meeting how to get sick or I didn't get diarrhea or I'd have a headache I need to go take a nap why I didn't want to know what was going on so that if my parents didn't tell me I had plausible deniability I couldn't get in trouble ok but once I know the law the ball game has changed and so the law and we've got a people in the law enforcement I'm not saying that even if you don't know the law by the way you're still required to follow the law all right you know get pulled over and say sorry officer I didn't know I wasn't supposed to be going 80 miles an hour in a 30 I'm sorry I left my glasses at oh I couldn't see I couldn't see it's not gonna cut it all right but when sin came sin revealed to us or when law came rather law revealed to us what sin was it showed us they gave us knowledge of sin but I'll say one other reason why when law came sin abounded what's what's something that you'll notice with little kids you tell little kid don't do something what are they gonna do they're gonna do it don't put your finger do not put your finger in the light socket okay if there's a little kid in your life that you don't like tell them don't put their finger in the okay I'm just saying I'm not encouraging you to do that I'm just saying what might please don't do that so dude okay all right what happens is were rebellious we're about uses humans right you tell someone don't do something gonna be like who you to tell me what I can do what I can't do you're not the boss of me who are you right and oftentimes when we were told don't do something what kind of pride gets in the way st. Augustine said it beautifully says prohibition increased lust prohibition increase lust during the period of prohibition in this country when alcohol was prohibited for a number of years people that never drink we're like ah III got a drink I gotta get an alcohol got to get some booze the second you start talking about we're gonna take away the Second Amendment in this country what happens people that would never buy a gun say I got to get a gun I got a stockpile why his prohibition increases lust you tell someone we're gonna take something away from you and they're like I got to have it I gotta have it can't heavy gotta have it gotta have it than fruit okay so what happens here is that we're sin abounded grace about a much more the law entered that offense might abound it's it's not saying that God gave us the law so that we would sin more okay the law was given so that we would know the severity of our sin but on the flip side we've got to understand that when we know the law oftentimes we have to know our prideful hearts that we oftentimes will Rebell and say you can't tell me what to do yeah you can't tell me how to do it what to do I'm an American free land of the free home of the brave independent nobody tell me how to live my life Hey and I would say as Americans we have it even more challenging because in our culture as Americans personal independence personal liberty is something it's a beautiful thing but it comes along with our own sense of pride and ego where we say I don't want anyone to nobody can tell me what to do nobody can tell me how to live my life as sin reigned in death even so grace might reign through Jesus Christ to eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord it's a fair point that he's saying but then what's the next possible thing if there's a lot of sin then there's a lot of grace what's the next question that any kid would ask what's the next question what shall we say then shall we continue to sin that grace might abound right yeah very further question if there's a lot of sin means a lot of grace right so should we sit a lot so that there can be a lot of grace and that's actually where st. Paul picks up next week in Romans chapter 6 verse 1 and we'll stop with that all right any questions [Music] you